This thing is killer!! Reminds me of So Ill’s Bubbies but in screw on format and with the addition of great texture and thumb catches galore. You can turn it into slight pinches in each corner, flip it a million ways, heel or toe hook it, it’s just incredible. I have set commercially for a long time and used thousands of holds from all the companies, notable and obscure, and I can confidently say that this thing is one of my favorite holds period. We have it on 60 right now and it can work on anything from V4 to VHard.