These footholds are a great deal - I really appreciate Atomik subdividing their larger foothold pack for those of us with small home walls that don't need so many feet. These were a little bigger than I expected, but that adds to their versatility. On a 45 degree wall, you can use their little nubbins to make these usable, while on a 20 degree wall, you can use one of the sides without the nubbin to set v4 or 5.11 and harder.