First off, every wall needs jugs. No one will tell you differently. You have to warm up, cool down or plain out climb on comfortable holds at some point in every session and here they are. They are easy to grab on to and offer a ton of thumb-catch variations making them easy to pinch as the wall gets steeper. We designed this set for steep walls in mind but they are awesome for vertical walls as well. They have a really rounded edge which makes it comfortable to "hang" on them. The holds that never get left in the hold bucket.