These pinches are really good for increasing your pinch game. From a vertical wall they are going to be juggy, all the way down to about 50 degrees (moon board). At that level angle it gets a little wonky and at a true 45 the holds won't yield anything easier than V7. I also really appreciate the screw on option, I don't have a ton of space, but I can sneak the pinches in-between the bolted on holds. They are quite comfortable as well, and make a good addition to my spray wall.