These scaled climbing footholds are a unique but positive foothold, great for most terrain. They can definitely be used for cave routes but won't be as effective for toeing in on as other cave-specific footholds. We like these as feet because they are very uncomfortable with hands by design. The scalloped design makes them high friction, allowing them to serve climbers ranging from beginner to advanced. For a smaller version, try our 30 Super Small Scaled Tech Feet.