We got these for our at-home outdoor wall, set at 30 degrees. They are a great addition to our set of XXL homemade wooden jugs and smaller crimps. As other reviewers said, "Large" could be deceiving. These are certainly positive, easy holds, but they are still a bit demanding in terms of finger strength and are not full-hand clings. Perfect for our purposes. Great for warm up, climb down, staying on the wall, or to mix into a route; I also hang from them to practice clipping. I really appreciated the ordering options including colors and hardware. Hold texture feels great. Hardware was perfect. Delivery was quick. Seems like a great value. I might buy another set. Certainly will keep shopping Atomik.