I have these on my 45 deg homewall. At 45 deg, some are positive, while others are a neutral 0 deg edge. I don't know I'd call them "jugs" at 45, but they're not hard to hold (V6/V7 climber). The texture is smooth, so they are bit harder to hold, but also easier on the skin is spending tons of time on circuits. There is a nice bit of variety in the set. The shape is more comfortable than, say, the steep brain coral crimps, or the steep sandstone crimps.