We got 5 of these as part of the 100 Steep Wall set. Unfortunately, although they are positive, they're just not comfortable on our 40 degree wall. The texture is a bit rough and the shapes feel a bit strange in our hands. The large divot jugs are amazing, so I recommend that set over these if you're just looking for warm-up holds. For medium holds, I highly recommend the medium basic jugs as a much more comfortable alternative.