We have two sets of the incut version, which we love, but even some of those can be fairly sharp on the 45, so I got these on a whim since they are so affordable. I love them, and I am not a crimp machine at all. They really force open handed crimp technique on steeper angles due to being flat. They clocked in around V8/9 on that angle with some foot trickery, and that’s about the easiest you could expect for steep walls unless you have a ton of volumes. I almost wish we had a 30 degree wall for these because they would really shine on that angle. The texture does make climbing on them possible during summer heat, but beware the dry-fire!